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Scooter Oil What kind of gear box oil should I get for a 2 stroke 50cc scooter? It's a Vento Triton R4. Great scooter, but Vento's service sucks. I didn't get a manual with it and have looked everywhe...


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What kind of gear box oil should I get for a 2 stroke 50cc scooter?

It's a Vento Triton R4. Great scooter, but Vento's service sucks. I didn't get a manual with it and have looked everywhere to find the factory recommended gearbox oil. No luck hearing back from Vento on it either. Thanks in advance

Hi Kathy,,
You should always state Make/Year/Model so You can get a Specific answer & Correct Info.

You can use a variety of different types of oil,,
as Strange as that sounds.

Motor Oil:
10w-30,10w-40,20w-50
Straight 30w or 40w

Gear Oil:
GL3,GL4,GL5
75w,,,80w,,or 75w/90

ATF(Auto Trans Fluid)
Type F is heavier
Any type will do fine
..............
Here's more info,if you care to read

50cc 2 stroke scooters are almost Generic,,,the majority are patterned after an old ,old Yamaha design.

The gearboxes which need the oil are Very simple.
It's just a simple set of 3 reduction gears.
They are each on their own shaft,supported by Ball Bearings.
The only reason there's 3 gears and not just a single pair,is to maintain proper rotaion direction of the rear wheel.

As much as we all obsess about Lubricants,,,,that particular unit is just NOT THAT Picky about oil.

Relatively speaking,,its a "Light Duty" application
*Low temperatures
*Low Speed
*Light loads
--and fairly robust components for the job it does.
Same boxes are used for 100's and 125/150's in lots of scooters,,,,
and Lots of scooters get "hopped-up" to Twice their original power & speed.

So when I say,,"Not Picky about gear oil",,,
I'm Not saying "It doesn't matter",,,,,but it really almost doesn't.

Yamaha itself specifies 10w-30 Grade SE motor oil.
Their scooters serve for Generations,,,Decades,, all over Asia----in what can be considered "extreme,continuous duty"

Lots of people use 20w-50 motor oil,,
Straight 30w or 40w Motor oil is also fine.

Type "F" Automatic Transmission Fluid is excellent choice.
You'll never find Any MFG recommend it,,,which is odd.
It's Made for that type of application ,while NO motor oil is.
And every property of ATF far,far surpasses any motor oil for use in gearboxes .
Go Figure.???

Several Scooters Mfgr's specify Actual GEAR OIL.
Typically Grade GL3.
75w,,,or 75w/90 weight.
That's almost the lowest GRADE and Lightest weight Gear oil ya can get.

Someone here recently asked about using GL5 in place of GL3 gear oil,,because they could not Find GL3.

GL5 is a large upgrade in lubrication over GL3 and Fine for use in any modern scooter gear box.

"75w" gear oil SOUNDS a LOT Thicker/heavier than 10w-30 Motor Oil.
Actually,,it's approximately the same .

Gear Oil and Motor Oil are Graded on 2 Different Scales.
It's an "apples vs oranges " comparrison,as far the viscosity numbers.
I mention that because the difference in the Numbers always raises questions.

ATF,,Auto Trans Fluid,,,never has a Number Grade,,,but always Seems very watery & thin.
It's actually about 30w to 40w ,,,IF Graded on a Motor Oil scale.

So,,,almost ANY Motor Oil,Gear Oil,or ATF.
And almost anything beyond plain ol' 10w-30 is an "Upgrade".
'Bleive it or not,,it just happens to work out that way.

.........................................................

Two Stroke Oil for use in the Engine is a whole 'nother story.

You want to always use a very high quality oil,,,because in That application it makes BIG Difference.

These days,,practically Any SYNTHETIC 2-Stroke OIl for Motorcyles is a good safe bet.
Everybody has their own prefferences.

Beyond that,,,just in General,,,the Synthetics all offer a certain range of properties which are very important to 2 stroke motors.
All of them will improve engine life,,,and reduce maintenance due to less carbon build-up,,
improve spark plug life,,,
and "Maybe" improve performance and fuel mileage a little bit.

They usually cost a more,,,but will eventually pay for the difference .
And they keep your scooter running better,longer.

Another thing,,,Try an NGK Iridium Spark Plug.
They usually make a Noticeable Difference

.......................................
I Re-Read your Question after You added your bike's info

See here what a difference that makes,,,lol:)

http://www.myvento.net/maintenance/transmission-maintenance-for-50ccs.html

http://www.myvento.net/guides-and-faqs/index.php

Have Fun,,and Ride Safe



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Scooter Tuning is Not a Crime But You Need to do it Safe

Some people might think it probably isn't legal to tune your scooter to the max, wile in fact in most countries it is. As long as your scooter still meets the standard safety prescriptions you can tune your scooter to the new and improved scooter you want it to be. But there are some safety precautions you need to take before you start with scooter tuning.

It does not matter if you hire someone else to do the tuning or if you do it yourself you still are going to spend a pretty penny which you need to see as a proper investment to make a super scooter. Do not let your neighbors nephew tinker with your scooter just because he can do it very cheap. remember there is a reason why he is cheap.

Do it good, do it yourself

When you have decided to start with scooter tuning yourself you are in for a steep learning curve. You should avoid to treat your scooter as a trial and error tuning course and the only way to avoid this is to do some proper research. Before you start doing anything you should find instructions and gather materials and equipment that you are going to need to do the job right. Instructions about what you need to do, in what way and with what tools can be found online but you can also join a scooter club where other people can help you. When you decide to do it yourself and you have done your homework you can be sure that you have done everything to get it right. And when you have any doubt, do not try it just yet but ask around on the many forums that are available online.

You need a good work space for scooter tuning

When it comes to work space it all starts and end with safety, did you know that the most common accidents with teenage boys is with scooter accidents and that nearly 60 percent of those accidents is because of mishaps with scooter tuning? Most of the time it are just minor injuries but they could have been avoided. And one big part of that has to do with a good clean and safe work space. The front lawn is most of the time not such a safe place, you need to be able to move around freely and not damage anything or anyone by spilling grease, oil or gas. There is one advantage in working outside, scooter tunng needs to be done in a well-ventilated place this is because there are some chemicals you might need that can make you dizzy.

The area you work in also needs to be a flat area of concrete. It needs to be level this means that when you put something on the flor it will not roll away. You also need to make sure that pets, and children can not come in your work area, there are dangerous tools and even chemicals involved in scooter tuning and you need to prevent a child takes one of your tools when you have your back turned. If you do not have such an area, look around if your friends do have a spare space you can use.

The garage?

Working in a well ventilated and clean area would be the best thing we can advise you, but you need to make sure that the garage has no clutter like paper and other junk laying around. And again make sure that the garage is well ventilated. If you are going to use chemicals or power tools make sure you test electrical circuits and outlets to make sure you are not going to have sparks when you start working.

If you keep these safety tips in mind you are finally in for a great adventure of turning your basic regular scooter in to a vast, smart new and improved version. Scooter tuning is a fun an challenging activity and we wish you the best of luck.

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